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Official results of HvZ Administrator election for Fall 2011 
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Post Re: Official results of HvZ Administrator election for Fall
Congrats, Brian. We'll try not to let you down. 8-)

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What was the tally for last semester's election? I want to compare the results. :twisted:

The following stats are full votes, not official votes:

Brian Bauman won this Fall 2011 election with 38 votes of the 58 cast votes, to win with 66% of the overall majority against 3 other candidates.
Ryan Evans won the Spring 2011 election with 30 votes of the 86 cast votes, to win with 35% of the overall majority against 6 other candidates.
Pietre Nordell won the Fall 2010 election with 21 votes of the 40 cast votes, to win with 53% of the overall majority against 4 other candidates.
Lemmy Saylor won the Spring 2010 election with 33 votes of the 45 cast votes, to win with 73% of the overall majority against 2 other candidates.

In the past two years, for HvZ Admin, by comparison, this is the second highest total vote count, the second highest overall majority, yet still the highest number of votes for any individual. Fascinating, no?

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April 14th, 2011, 2:49 pm
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Post Re: Official results of HvZ Administrator election for Fall
Stealth Mode wrote:
Congrats, Brian. We'll try not to let you down. 8-)

Last Defender wrote:
What was the tally for last semester's election? I want to compare the results. :twisted:

The following stats are full votes, not official votes:

Brian Bauman won this Fall 2011 election with 38 votes of the 58 cast votes, to win with 66% of the overall majority against 3 other candidates.
Ryan Evans won the Spring 2011 election with 30 votes of the 86 cast votes, to win with 35% of the overall majority against 6 other candidates.
Pietre Nordell won the Fall 2010 election with 21 votes of the 40 cast votes, to win with 53% of the overall majority against 4 other candidates.
Lemmy Saylor won the Spring 2010 election with 33 votes of the 45 cast votes, to win with 73% of the overall majority against 2 other candidates.

In the past two years, for HvZ Admin, by comparison, this is the second highest total vote count, the second highest overall majority, yet still the highest number of votes for any individual. Fascinating, no?


This stuff is what I wanted to know and I'd say that it is interesting that not one of those Records is held by you

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April 14th, 2011, 4:36 pm
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Fat Jesus wrote:
This stuff is what I wanted to know and I'd say that it is interesting that not one of those Records is held by you


Election results are interesting in that... social, popularity contest kind of way, but they don't really say much about anything else.

So... I mean, what are you trying to say here, Bryan? Neener neener boo boo, Pietre's not as popular as some other guys? Frankly, using election results this way is a real stretch - you're better off just saying what you mean. And even if you DID just say what you mean... you're still way off-topic and going out of your way to flame someone for no constructive reason.

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Post Re: Official results of HvZ Administrator election for Fall
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going out of your way to flame someone for no constructive reason.

It was a Joke clam down

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Post Re: Official results of HvZ Administrator election for Fall
adambleedsgreen wrote:
Fat Jesus wrote:
This stuff is what I wanted to know and I'd say that it is interesting that not one of those Records is held by you


Election results are interesting in that... social, popularity contest kind of way, but they don't really say much about anything else.

So... I mean, what are you trying to say here, Bryan? Neener neener boo boo, Pietre's not as popular as some other guys? Frankly, using election results this way is a real stretch - you're better off just saying what you mean. And even if you DID just say what you mean... you're still way off-topic and going out of your way to flame someone for no constructive reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKJsSPATDLY



To read his comment from a more optimistic standpoint, perhaps he was simply saying that he liked Pietre's game/person enough that he expected them to to have held at least one of the records.
Either way, back on topic.
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April 15th, 2011, 2:40 pm
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adambleedsgreen wrote:
you're still way off-topic and going out of your way to flame someone for no constructive reason.


Irony?

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VideoGuy wrote:
adambleedsgreen wrote:
you're still way off-topic and going out of your way to flame someone for no constructive reason.


Irony?


lolololololololol

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April 16th, 2011, 4:44 pm
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Post Re: Official results of HvZ Administrator election for Fall
Trololololol. Technically, I do have a couple of the records.

I didn't bother posting this earlier:
During Bauman's election, the competition averaged 5.6 votes each.
During Evans' election, the competition averaged 9 votes each.
During Nordell's election, the competition averaged 4.75 votes each.
During Saylor's election, the competition averaged 5.5 votes each.
During all these elections combined, the competition averaged 6.21 votes each.

As you can see, I overwhelmed my competition a bit more effectively than some others. :twisted:

I have another, but you have to read into the mathematics a bit more, and it's hardly worth it. But if you've got a good mathematical head on you and further interest in the fascination of our elections, you can try to follow along. ;)

Stealth Mode wrote:
The following stats are full votes, not official votes:

Brian Bauman won this Fall 2011 election with 38 votes of the 58 cast votes, to win with 66% of the overall majority against 3 other candidates.
Ryan Evans won the Spring 2011 election with 30 votes of the 86 cast votes, to win with 35% of the overall majority against 6 other candidates.
Pietre Nordell won the Fall 2010 election with 21 votes of the 40 cast votes, to win with 53% of the overall majority against 4 other candidates.
Lemmy Saylor won the Spring 2010 election with 33 votes of the 45 cast votes, to win with 73% of the overall majority against 2 other candidates.

So here's the obvious information, from which we will form a couple new tidbits.

For starters, let's find out how each election would turn out if we all had exactly the same pool of votes to work from. First, we have to calculate our average votes: (58*86*40*45)/4= 57.25 cast votes

Then we have to figure out how each of the votes we got would correspond to this average. I'll spare the math for this one, but it basically looks like this.

Brian Bauman won this Fall 2011 election with 37.5 votes of the 57.25 cast votes, to win with 66% of the overall majority against 3 other candidates.
Ryan Evans won the Spring 2011 election with 19.97 votes of the 57.25 cast votes, to win with 35% of the overall majority against 6 other candidates.
Pietre Nordell won the Fall 2010 election with 30.05 votes of the 57.25 cast votes, to win with 53% of the overall majority against 4 other candidates.
Lemmy Saylor won the Spring 2010 election with 41.98 votes of the 57.25 cast votes, to win with 73% of the overall majority against 2 other candidates.

Now, as you can see, Lemmy holds the new record for how many votes, but that's actually irrelevant since, now that all cast votes are equal, everyone corresponds directly to their majority %, which Lemmy was leading in anyway.

So with all 4 candidates now working on an average "cast votes", we can do a couple cool things to figure use "other candidates" as a balancer. Obviously we can't predict how other candidates would have affected the ballot easily, but we can still fudge around some numbers.

For starters, we can take the results and average out each candidate's "share" of the votes. That is, to say, we can multiply the winning vote figure by the amount of defeated candidates and divide it by the total candidates (which, in this case, is just amount of defeated candidates + 1). Now, you wouldn't think this would do much but... well, you'll see...

Bauman: (37.5*3)/4 = 28.13 vote share. (49%)
Evans: (19.97*6)/7 = 17.11 vote share. (30%)
Nordell: (30.05*4)/5 = 24.05 vote share. (42%)
Saylor: (41.98*2)/3 = 27.98 vote share. (49%)

First off, ignore the percentages I included by the side as they relate to the original majority percentages; they're not weighted correctly, they're there only to illustrate the gap between candidates under THIS system set to the 57.25 average total cast votes.

So as you can see, Lemmy lost some ground here. While it's true he had the 73% majority, adding an extra candidate to the mix allowed Brian's 66% to be made up for; overcoming an extra candidate > 7%. You can also see that I started catching up to both by having 2 and 1 extra candidates over Lemmy and Brian, respectively, but Ryan had difficulty coming into close range just because his initial majority percentage was so low, and there weren't enough candidates to compensate. This is accurate, since Ryan had the most powerful competition of any of the 4 elected admin in this example.

Anyway, if this doesn't work for you, since, admittedly, it's kind of random, we can do something a bit more grounded.

In this next example, we'll pretend everyone had 6 opposing candidates in their election, since that's the highest. As such, everyone's new votes (as related to the average cast votes) are divisible by a "multiplier" (except Ryan, who has a divisor of 1).

Bauman: 3 opposing candidates (2x divisor to 6)
Evans: 6 opposing candidates (1x divisor to 6)
Nordell: 4 opposing candidates (1.5x divisor to 6)
Saylor: 2 opposing candidates (3x divisor to 6)

Now as you can see, this is going to be a much more dramatic impact, and we're really assuming some tough competition here from other candidates.

So next we take each candidates averaged winning votes and see how they're affected by their divisors.

Bauman: 37.50 votes / 2 divisor = 18.75 vote share.
Evans = 19.97 votes / 1 divisor = 19.97 vote share.
Nordell = 30.05 votes / 1.5 divisor = 20.03 vote share.
Saylor = 41.98 votes / 3 divisor = 13.99 vote share.

And so, hypothetically, vote share can translate to this:

Brian Bauman won this Fall 2011 election with 18.75 votes of the 57.25 cast votes, to win with 32.76% of the overall majority against 6 other candidates.
Ryan Evans won the Spring 2011 election with 19.97 votes of the 57.25 cast votes, to win with 34.88% of the overall majority against 6 other candidates.
Pietre Nordell won the Fall 2010 election with 20.03 votes of the 57.25 cast votes, to win with 35% of the overall majority against 6 other candidates.
Lemmy Saylor won the Spring 2010 election with 13.99 votes of the 57.25 cast votes, to win with 24.44% of the overall majority against 6 other candidates.

According to this scale, Lemmy, who had the highest majority percentage initially, is actually in the weakest vote share and weakest percentage in the hypothetical situation. Why, you ask? He got that vote percentage against only 2 other individuals and, for that matter, individuals which weren't necessarily effective as competition for him. This is assuming more individuals join the fray that are effective challengers and, while Lemmy still wins (he is pulling 14 votes of the 57, after all, with 6 other people running alongside him, by which the average would be 7 rival votes per competitor), he has a much harder time because we added harder, hypothetical opponents.

Meanwhile, I, on the other hand, am only given 2 extra competitors, allowing me a narrow margin over Evans, who is given no one else to run against, who has a narrow margin over Bauman, who is given 3 more challengers. We all still win our elections with 6 rival votes per competitor, which is about equal to Lemmy's opponents getting 7.

So while this scale looks unfair, initially, especially to Lemmy, you actually get to see that we all get treated somewhat fairly by having opponents who amass 6-7 votes each; not enough to win, but enough to split the votes. Still think that's unfair? It all checks out; remember this?
Stealth Mode wrote:
During Bauman's election, the competition averaged 5.6 votes each.
During Evans' election, the competition averaged 9 votes each.
During Nordell's election, the competition averaged 4.75 votes each.
During Saylor's election, the competition averaged 5.5 votes each.
During all these elections combined, the competition averaged 6.21 votes each.


So by now, you've probably forgotten exactly why you read all that.

Well, here's why:

Fat Jesus wrote:
This stuff is what I wanted to know and I'd say that it is interesting that not one of those Records is held by you

I, very narrowly, have the highest vote share against averaged vote counts and equally distributed hypothetical competition. Also of note, my actual competition had less share of the votes on average. Fascinating, no?

/massivesmartjoke
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/amidoinitrite?

(Also, I understood Reeder's initial post to mean that it's interesting that, despite having a "revolutionary" game, the election was actually rather simple. Still, this was just fun to write. ;) )

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Post Re: Official results of HvZ Administrator election for Fall
I love you Pietre

The fact that you went that far is awesome

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